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Sue Mastel Sue Mastel
March 23, 2017 @ 1:00pm
Group Membership Update - we now have 9 ADAMTHWAITE direct male line descendants who have taken yDNA tests and a further 18 sets of FF results from Adamthwaite descendants. If you have Adamthwaite ancestry, you might link to read our latest newsletter, which includes an article describing a very interesting match that we have been exploring through advanced DNA analysis. You can access the March 2017 Newsletter at
Les FOTHERGILL Les FOTHERGILL has a question!
March 23, 2015 @ 6:36am
Dear Sue,Thanks for doing this! Reading your research does this mean that we can reasonably only go back to maybe a lucky mention in the Manorial Records of the 16th century,if we are looking for ancestors from Ravenstonedale who were not landed gentry? Also will everyone with the haplogroup marker R-M269 Y-DNA have taken the same route out of Africa? Also does everyone who has the R-M269 marker have the same amount of genetic ancestry ie.40%Scottish,20% Irish and 18% English ?
Sue Mastel
March 23, 2015 @ 10:52am
HOW FAR CAN WE GO BACK? The earliest record relating to people who lived in Ravenstonedale which I have located so far is the Lay Subsidy Roll of 1379. Sadly, much of this document was so badly damaged that many of the names are missing altogether. Also, at this time, inherited surnames were only just beginning to be adopted in Westmorland (by ordinary people at any rate) – so though very interesting it does not provide a complete picture of the families living in the parish at that time. The manorial document of 1541 does however give us an accurate list of the names of Lord Wharton’s tenants and the 1568 list includes the names of the previous tenants as well as the current ones. This is just before the start of the Ravenstonedale parish registers. However, according to Thorton and McLaughlin, the Fothergills of Ravenstonedale go back much further than this. It would probably be necessary to consult The College of Arms to discover more for your particular surname, though some records of Westmorland Visitations are available at the British Library.
Sue Mastel
March 23, 2015 @ 10:52am
MIGRATORY PATTERN FOR R-M269 The Migration map provides a general route for each Haplogroup – though the actual details of timing and route will vary from individual to individual.
Sue Mastel
March 23, 2015 @ 10:53am
GENETIC ANCESTRY The yDNA analysis of your Ancestral Origins tells you what percentage of YOUR matches at various levels come from different countries – depending on how many matches you have at the higher levels, this can give you an idea of the known countries where your matches Most Distant Known Ancestors lived. (The results will be different for each haplotype in our project) The My Origins analysis of Family Finder results examines ALL branches of your ancestry, and provides an approximate breakdown of what percentage of your ancestry comes from different ethnic groups – these results will be refined as more reference data becomes available (for example when data from The People of the British Isles Project is incorporated into ftDNA’s database).
March 23, 2015 @ 11:11am
OK,thanks,a step towards understanding things !
Sue Mastel Sue Mastel
March 11, 2015 @ 5:36am
MIGRATION away from Ravenstonedale 16th century manorial records from Ravenstonedale parish confirm that the earliest Adamthwaites lived at just two hamlets within the parish – Adamthwaite and nearby Artelgarth. Over the next few decades they appeared at other farms in the parish and by the beginning of the 1600s at least one family was living at nearby Sedbergh, another at Bolton on Swale near Richmond in Yorkshire, and one in the city of York. In 1625, an Adamthwaite wool merchant died in Colchester, Essex (a centre for the woollen trade) but in his will he made bequests to his family who lived in Ravenstonedale. We have established that the handful of Adamthwaites in London arrived as apprentices – some stayed but others returned to the north-west. Gradually, families spread out to the neighbouring towns and villages, and by the 19th century some had moved across the Pennines to find work in the coal mines of County Durham and others in the industries of Manchester. By the time of the first census in 1841 there was just one person with the surname Adamthwaite living in Ravenstonedale. And by 1911 there were hardly any left in Westmorland at all. MIGRATION TO THE NEW WORLD In the middle of the 19th century the first adventurous Adamthwaites sailed to Australia and New Zealand – where they thrived and multiplied! By the turn of the 20th century other families sailed to Canada and later to the United States. It is now believed that there are more Adamthwaites living in Australia and Canada than there are back in England.
Sue Mastel Sue Mastel
March 10, 2015 @ 3:07pm
4 photos added to Adamthwaite
the road to Adamthwaite
the farmhouse some years ago
'TA 1684' carved over the door
the old spinning gallery
3 photos added to distribution maps
early migration from Ravenstonedale
ADAMTHWAITEs in 1841 census
ADAMTHWAITEs in 1911 census
Sue Mastel
March 10, 2015 @ 1:47pm
ADAMTHWAITE FARM The photos in the album ‘Adamthwaite’ show Adamthwaite farm as it looks today – nestled in a deep valley between Harter Fell and Green Bell (see below) – and above are some photos showing how it looked in the 1950s. The farm is reached by a 2 ½ mile single track road across the fells from Ravenstonedale village, which is often impassible in winter. Over the farmhouse door is carved ‘TA 1684’, recording the year that Thomas Adamthwaite rebuilt the main farmhouse from the one that had stood there for at least a hundred years. Further down the valley are several ruined buildings that were once other smaller farms making up the hamlet. Attached to the farmhouse is the original spinning gallery. This is where the wool would be washed, dried and spun after the sheep had been sheared.
Sue Mastel Sue Mastel
March 9, 2015 @ 12:16pm
1 photos added to Adamthwaite
Adamthwaite farm and Harter Fell
Sue Mastel
March 10, 2015 @ 1:46pm
ORIGINS OF THE SURNAME ADAMTHWAITE Adamthwaite is a locative surname – meaning ‘of Adamthwaite’. The place name itself is from the old norse meaning ‘Adam’s clearing’ We don’t know who this Adam was or when he cleared the land, but we do know that originally this part of Westmorland was covered in forest (hard to believe today when you see the bare fells!) Members of the Adamthwaite one-name study have spent many years collecting all available records relating not only to holders of the surname, but also to the place where we believe the surname originated – a small farm located on the fells in the parish of Ravenstonedale in the old county of Westmorland in northwest England. We have reconstructed ten family lines of Adamthwaites and are now confident that ALL Adamthwaites living in the world today are descended from people who lived in what was originally a group of smallholdings called Adamthwaite. However, our DNA project has demonstrated that even though we can trace all the lines back to this parish, the lines do not all originate from one man. Our current theory is that there were several families living in the group of farms, and at the time that hereditary surnames were being introduced in this part of England (around 1400) perhaps three or four men adopted the surname Adamthwaite. You can read more about our research at our website