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With DNA and a mass of circumstantial evidense, I have concluded my connection to this line with the help of DNA. I will present this at the Youngblood Reunion the second Saturday of August held each year at the Old Lebanon Church in Youngblood Alabama just northwest of Troy Alabama. Let me know if you can be there.

For over forty years, my dad and I were convinced of a connection to the SC/GA/Pike County Youngblood group (The Youngblood-Armstrong and Allied families known around Union Springs, Farriorville and Troy AL) but there was no hard proof in the paper trail. Yes, our ancestors too were born in SC&GA, settled around Farriorville area before 1840, moved to the Youngblood Community near Troy, attended Old Lebanon Church, were founding members of Good Hope Baptist Church, shared such non standard first names as Robertson, Basil, Green...but alas no named connection.

My dad had communicated with Ms Eckardt and Dorothy Quaife (and others) about their ancestors…but no connections. Alas, there were too many Youngbloods using too few first names to make things easy. Then along comes the technology of DNA….

DNA has provided this "proof" for us of family group connections and we can go on to researching bigger and better things...and indeed more controversial thinks like ....

What is the connection of the Youngbloods of NC – Orange and Johnson Counties who arrived there before the 1760’s.?

What is the connection of all the Youngbloods who were in Edgefield District in 1750-1820 before moving out to Abbeville, GA, TN, AL and elsewhere (Group A-0 “GRAY” - known close link to Thomas/Jacob B YB)? Similarly, what about the Youngbloods of GA before becoming a state?

Who is Jacob Jr - 1810 - 1830 Edgefield SC??? Does anyone have any information on him.......? This is personally important to me as I feel Floelle and Francis made a serious mistake on this Jacob in the Youngblood-Armstrong and Allied Families book. This book has been my research bible and though many little things have been found to be wrong in the book, calling Jacob 1812 the son of Jacob B YB as “Jr” , has cost me enormously in wasted time. The book remains the best available until we finish this DNA project and issue updates.

Group B YB's (“GREEN”) were in York County about the same time/later...why are they totally unrelated?? Are they unrelated? How are they related to the Augusta, GA Youngbloods?

**** Note: Group B has been DNA Linked to John Miles YB ******

Is there a link between the Edgefield Group and the Charleston, Barnwell, Colleton Group?...how...where's the paper confirmation?

Who really is the father of Thomas Youngblood who married Amy Hopkins father of Jacob B YB and James YB (bd 1809)?
Henry ? Which Henry?
John Miles YB had a son Thomas...but we see no proof it was Amy's Thomas...

There are two Peter Youngbloods born circa 1730…different wives, Edgefield and Augusta area. Are they related? (This is our “PURPLE” Group in the DNA displays)

Is Jeremiah of James related to Thomas (of Amy Hopkins) and how close is the relationship? Which James? (This is our “BLUE” Group in the DNA displays)

There are at least two distinct lines of Youngbloods coming out of NY/PA/MD/NC/SC/GA. To which group does one belong and where did they come from? How do we prove it?

How much data and how many participants will we need to assist anyone in linking to our groupings of ancestors….. which will help focus research into specific areas.

Which of these Youngblood lines ties to John Miles Youngblood ????

Are the Youngbloods who arrived before 1700 related to those arriving after 1700? It seems for the most part...NO.

There is demographics evidence that needs to be confirmed by DNA and other specific paperwork. Do any of the "later" arriving Youngbloods have genealogy information that will definitively take us back to Germany and The Netherlands prior to 1700?

Curious quote: My great grandfather referred to himself as a "Dutchman"….but we think our line is German.

Special recognition to Dorothy Quaife for her encouragement in beginning this project and who in her communications with my dad over 30 years ago started this obsession. Whenever my enthusiasm gets the best of me, she's always there with one more question....or an answer/fact I was really trying to look past to keep.

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Project Goals:

We want this project to assist in allowing fellow genealogist and the curious in focusing on groups of Youngbloods once we attain a critical mass of participants, their lineage and proof already available. This will help others to focus only on their related groups and thus save enormous time and expense.

Each researcher will have individaul personal goals ... some of which are listed above..... We all can help.

I would personally like to see all of the 1790 US Youngblood lines defined by current DNA tests. ( We have now done this - 4/2007)

An added bonus would be connecting up the Youngbloods who arrived here before 1700 with those who arrived after 1700 to ultimately connect to European ancestors.

We now have a teaser that may indicate a link to Reuben/Joseph YB. If you have not seen the historical novel - "A Secret War" by Terrell Garren....I am told it is a suspenseful novel about the life and horrors of the Civil War. (Great book - I recommend it)

Project News:

You may want to read this from the bottom if this is you first reading.

-------07/07/2008
We appear to have identified a descendent of the last remaining son of Thomas and Amy YB (Thomas S, Basil Manley, Wm Oscar-1852) and await anxiously the test kit results.

-------09/01/2007
New Kink in the John Miles and Peter lines with latest results....
I have known this family for over 20 years. Their ancestory had them tied to John Miles YB, 1708, THomas 1680and Abraham 1635...so a couple of years back I told them we were not related. Well, over the last year or so with DNA, we have found a few mistakes in the internet and paper histories. We, it seems, have another and I can now call Spencer and Ryan "cousins". They match the PURPLE... Please let me know if anything below until 1708 is incorrect......

Winton S YB 1918
Herbert Spencer 1893
George Washington 1850
Uriah 1802
Joshua 1766
John 1734 <--- PURPLE
John Miles 1708 < this DNA pattern does not match-GREEN. It is felt that there is a break in the research here. This is the second event pointing to this problem. Likely that John Miles had a son name John but PURPLE John is not the one some have tied to John Miles YB.
John 1734 appears to be the father of George 1768, Abraham J 1769, and Isaac 1771 but is not a son of John Miles YB...Jump in Dorothy with further details and questions and all the PURPLE researchers need to help us determine who the father of PURPLE John 1734...Bd near Peter JR 1732 ? Other Possibilities???? This could help Ruth...and others take a generation step further back in time.
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05/25/2007 Jungbluth Connection

We have received the results of our Jungbluth member of our YDNA project. There is no relationship. Though this does not absolutely rule out a connection...to some Jungblut(h) line....this Jungbluth line is in no way related.

Quite a dissappointment.

The most closely related member is in our group to the Jungbluth....is 4 of 12 mutations/markers off...a 2% chance of relationship in 24 generations.

The GREEN Group - John Miles YB - is 5 of 12 markers off.
My GRAY group - Thomas YB - is 8 of 12 markers off...a 0.1% chance of relationship in 24 generations...approaching Adam and Eve...
PURPLE and BLUE Groups are 9 of 12 "OFF".

11/24/2005
Kathy YB Carter - Lucky Charm found a connection to the Peter YB 1732 group.....like me, still looking for the exact person at the exact time.

DNA says John Miles YB (GREEN) is NOT the father of Thomas (of Amy Hopkins) Youngblood (GRAY)
Personally, after spending 35 years to prove my connection to John Miles YB…I am not. Most all Internet sites say that John Miles YB was the father of Thomas. This is correct but NOT the Thomas who married Amy Hopkins. Thomas of John Miles remained in NC.

12/26/2005

To date we have 28 Youngblood project members as we approach the end of our first year. We are anticipating member kits in the next few weeks for Ichabod and Reuben descendents to help us confirm two North Carolina lines as we look for each of us the answers to our ancestral questions. We expect the Ichabod line is from John Miles YB(GREEN) and the Reuben line is a toss up…but current thoughts are to the BLUE line.
Johnny and John Wade (Joel & James W descendents) test kits are being redone with vial #2. Results in about a month.

11/26/2005

All is not perfect as we did not get was expected from the Benjamin 1773 results. We begin again digging through paper and look for another direct male descendent to help us confirm the DNA profiles we are seeing. Keep looking for new lines to link. Tell any Youngblood you meet...we need them to participate....with "Cells and Tales". You never know where the piece of information you really need will come from.

11/24/2005
Kathy YB Carter - Lucky Charm found a connection to the Peter YB 1732 group.....like me, still looking for the exact person at the exact time.

11/01/2005
Ohio YBs linked to Edgefield Sc, TN and back to NC for a link to James 1740 and new speculation about a relationship to Reuben.

10/13/2005
Steve matches GRAY Group 11/12. A slight difference than has been seen before.
Bob Leonard matches BLUE – a new little wrinkle

10/01/2005

Indiana Youngbloods linked to Peter Jr YB 1732….Jacob 1750
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09/30/2005
Troy Douglas Markers in…..A complete mismatch….very puzzling as we expected we had a good paper trail.

09/01/2005

We are still struggling with the Joel and James Walker Youngblood connection. We will need more descendents and some more digging.
07/22/2005
Overall DNA Results

To Date we have 21 Youngblood Project members and 2 Youngbloods outside the FTDNA Project.
We have identified multiple members in four groups/lines of Youngbloods and two single kits that at this time do not link to the four other lines. We are looking to find confirming members of these two lines and of course, always more so we may learn and confirm the identified lines from Thomas ~1750, Peter ~1732, James ~1740 and John Miles YB ~1708.
July has seen us match a current Illinois Youngblood to James 1740 line - Wm Youngblood 1806.
We have another current IL Youngblood who we expect to tie to the SC YBs - not absolutely sure which group. We have a Texas Youngblood tracing back to Benjamin 1773.
I am really looking forward to the results of these next few weeks.

07/21/2005
G. Everett results match PURPLE group. This group of markers is extremely tight. There are so very few mismatches with in the group. What does this mean?
Denny R matches James/Jeremiah BLUE group.
06/26/2005
Dallis YB results do not match anyone.
06/01/2005
James Allan 37 Results are in. James is my son and we match 36/37 mismatching on a “red multiple”. Of Note…he matches Bill T 37/37…they are separated by 5-6 generations. What does this mean? For me, this means multiples are not significant or of any help to distinguish between lines. This goes against common DNA rules.

05/08/2005
Thomas Kelly YB Results in PURPLE Group

04/16/05 Rick’s 37 comes in with a good match to Larry and Wayne
04/06/05
Hank results put him in the BLUE James / Jeremiah
Youngblood DNA Project - John Miles Youngblood /Thomas Youngblood Results

The DNA test has shown that John Miles ~bd 1708 son of Thomas Youngblood of Maryland is NOT related to Thomas S Youngblood (of Amy Hopkins )( ~bd 1746 unknown) of the Edgefield district of SC father of Jacob B et al ( of the Pike Co AL Group).
Additionally John Miles YB is not related to Amos Caril bd 1784, Jeremiah YB 1765, Samuel Sr 1754 Edgefield of the Delois K YB line.

The DNA of the well proven John Miles YB descendent matches Benny YB who I have been try to link to for years, Ron YB of Ft Worth TX and Wm L YB of Boulder, CO.

I feel very comfortable we have sufficient data to prove relationship to the above lines for any one who wishes to take the DNA test. If you are a male Youngblood who believe you are related to John Miles, Thomas, Samuel, Jeremiah, Eli, Reuben, Seaborn...1700's to mid 1800s or do NOT know, we can provide you with the information to focus your genealogy search.

Larry Youngblood
lyoungblood@Houston.rr.com
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04/05/2005 - We start the month of April off with a blockbuster. DNA evidence shows Thomas (of Amy Hopkins) YB of SC, revolutionary war veteran, father of Jacob B YB (Youngblood-Armstrong and Allied families Group).......is NOT related to John Miles Youngblood as many, many internet trees proclaim...as well as many of my Pike county relatives have assumed. Please everyone, break the link between Thomas and John Miles, review your analysis, look at your proof and send This information to me for review ...then call me and let's discuss.

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04/04/05 - The results just keep coming in....we just do not have all we need and an analysis of what it all means yet. April will again offer us a couple more chances to gain a better understanding.

4/3/2005 --- This past months results have again been intriguing indeed. The results from the Delois Kelly YB lines shows a closer than expected link to the Thomas/Jacob B YB line. Having been told this cannot be....this begins to look like Group A is not linked to John Miles YB.

The results from the Jeremiah YB lines shows a closer than expected link to the Thomas/Jacob B YB line. Having been told this cannot be....this begins to look like Group A is not linked to John Miles YB. So many internet sites link Jeremiah/James and Thomas/Jacob line to John Miles YB….they are all wrong….! The usage of common biblical names has historically caused errors in research. Now with electronic copying so easy, these errors are propagating relentlessly. Pass this along and clean up Internet Databases.

What does this mean? Other than we need more basic documentation, speculation can really run wild on this.

We had a delay in the DNA test for the John Miles YB descendent....still hopeful this will clarify the meaning of the above "new" links. We should have this test back this month.

***** Of course, this cleared up quite a few things for the DNA Project members in Group B....but the work is not over ***** For Group A, its back to looking all over again.....!

My most recent known ancestor (MRKA) is WM L Youngblood 1833 GA. His family lived next door to family of James YB (1809) son of Jacob B for 30 years. My assumption was that WM L's father was a brother of James. I am expecting this to be Jacob Jr 1793 1839…must find proof. DNA match 36/37 to a documented descendent of James, Son Jacob B, son of Thomas YB (wife Amy Hopkins) born ~ 1746.

Wayne's MRKA is Amos Caril Sr Youngblood bd~1784. Matches 34-6/37 to Thomas/Amy YB line. Was he a son of Thomas? nephew? Cousin or second cousin?...

Matches 34-6/37 to Peter 1732 YB line. Where's the connect?

Thomas 1745, Peter 1732 James 1740 and Amos are most definitely related.

Some very interesting results in...some very interesting tales to tell. Two distinct lines identified now with at least four members each.

I will begin referring for the time being to different Youngblood Groups:

Group A-0 has four members at present (GRAY)
Larry Unknown(Jacob Jr 1793?) of Jacob YB c. 1770 of Thomas/Amy Hopkins YB c.1740....
Rick YB of David of Thomas & Amy
William T of James of Thomas & Amy
Herbert(Hub) of James of Jacob of Thomas & A Youngblood members.

Group A-1 has four members at present. (PURPLE)
The "-1" means one of twelve genetic markers in distance from the "-0" group.
Wayne B Youngblood (of Amos C YB) is in this group.
Thomas Kelly YB, Jesse, Ruth and Billy (Peter Jr. -~1732)

Group A-2 has one member at present. (BLUE) James 1740-1792
The "-1" means one of twelve genetic markers in distance from the "-0" group…but this is a different marker that Group A-1 PURPLE.

Group B has 4 members at present.(GREEN)
The genetic distance is "7"/"8" on the twelve marker test meaning a distinct line of Youngbloods ALL OUT OF SC AND GA.
Benny, Ron and Bill L YB.

This line now ties to John Miles Youngblood......
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More new members needed.... Tell one and tell all.We need funds as well to help us get disinterested folks involved a little easier at least with the $101 cheek scrape.

We have been able to put together two sets (now more) of members/folks who had no idea of a connection.

We have identified 5 additional folks tied to the Thomas and Amy Youngblood line......but now...well back to the research and to trolling for other Youngbloods to participate.

NOTE: All member test kits are now in. We really need some more to keep the momentum going.

03/11/2005
Jeffery Steven YB kit matches 11/12 with Larry and Wayne but differently….we now have 4 lines – 3 related and one unrelated.

3/5/05-----

Group A-0 and A-1 results establishes a link between the Edgefield group and the Barnwell Group. Let's try to find more from the Barnwell area. Who is Bart and who is Reason and how are they related to Amos. Is the Samuel living near Reason a brother...same approximate age.

The kit is in the lab for B D YB...documented descendent of John Miles YB...really getting excited about receiving the results on this test.

We have our first descendent member from the Greenville SC area and group.....Joel (1807) - should get results back in 6 weeks or so. (thought to be a son of a Thomas...but we think maybe a different Thomas than Amy's)....Any one having "paper Proof",.....bring it on.

03/01/2005 - 21 - members (actually 23)
18 - Results in (actually 20. There are two YBs who came to us from tests outside the FTDNA Youngblood Project.
3 - Results headed to/in the lab
0 - Test kits in transit

Still expecting two or so members monthly based on emails received....all are welcome.

We would expect about one result back a week in the next 2-3 weeks to add to our current results. The results already have connected Amos C Youngblood to the Thomas and Amy Hopkins YB line.... now HOW is the next task. There was no known connection before. This is an 11/12 match

One most interesting find...we have two "double Youngbloods" ie a Youngblood line married a Youngblood line in the Project. In one case, where one of the lines hit a brick wall with its research...the other line went further back and there is a 12/12 match between these lines. Now find the paper link and prove it up.

We have received a General Fund donation which will be used where we expect upon reviewing these pending results the greatest amount of knowledge to be gained. Analysis and suggestions will be sought on how this can be effectively used to further the project plan from all participants. There may again come a time when donations may be important to the knowledge base....as of now the fund is virtually nil...I will let all know if I feel a new member's information would be worth it to us all.

02/24/2005
Rick comes back with a 12/12 match to Group A-0(therefore 11/12 to Group A-1)
Bill L comes back with a 12/12 with Group B.
Rick has excellent paper work to David son of Thomas and Amy YB.
Bill along with Benny and Ron are beginning to compare notes.02/09/2005
First 37 marker results come in. These are disappointing results and as of now, scrambling for an explanation…only 7 of the last 13 match. The lab is to review and then we will get together for an explanation. I order a kit for my son as a very close validation of the process.

February 12, 2005

Partial results are in from Larry Youngblood 37 marker and Wayne B. Youngblood 37 marker tests. We are a 23/24 match.

************** Results did not come in as hoped for ... 29/37....awaiting lab verification and analysis for an explanation as to what this may mean. ** Retest shows a 35/37 match (as Expected)

01/31/2005
William Thurman (Bill) 12 marker results – matches Larry and Hub

01/29/2005
Wayne and Larry matched 23 of the first 24. Update: Mistakes do happen…I requested my kit to be re-run for my last 13 markers resulting in an exact match to Wayne on the last 13…thus a 36/37 match…but what does it mean?.
01/11/2005
Jimmie Ray Youngblood
Billy J. Youngblood
Jesse C. Youngblood
The above are an 11/12 match to Larry and Hub while Ron matches no one.
Ronald Evan Youngblood – 7/12 to the above
We have then three lines of YBs

12/17/2004 Larry decides, for the knowledge it may bring, to take the 37 test as Wayne has ordered the 37 marker test.

09/20/2004 Larry and Hub match 12/12

Project Results:

For now, here at the beginning, I have the proof necessary to call folks at the Old Lebanon Church reunion in Youngblood, AL..Pike County...each August COUSIN and know it is right. Also, with a match of 35/37 to Dorothy Quaife's line....these too are cousins I did not anticipate....as well as Thomas Kelly Youngblood of NC whose Peter 1732 I too can call cousin. Of course, a little disappointment in finding the Rev. Bill and Benny who I have corresponded with over the past 5+ years....are from a YDNA unrelated line. We know these two lines many times travelled...we expect we will find intermarriage and relationships do exist.
My special thanks to Hub Youngblood and Ann for all the help and kindness to "these folks from Texas they did not even know".....my first match to his James 1809 and started this little storm of interest.

We have identified now at least four distinct SC/GA lines of Youngbloods. We have submitted enough 37 marker tests to compare in more detail to the four identified lines. This will prepare us to better understand what the additional information is able to tell us so the project may communicate to all where an individual upgrade may be advantageous to the project.

We have seen at this time that the 12 marker test will define clearly which line one belongs. The 25 and 37 marker tests will provide a generational time frame (ie, 7 generations or 12 generations educated guess)