Reddick / r320 DNA Surname Project - News

Lewis M. Ruddick
Reddick/R320 Project Administrator.

NOTE -I will be away from July 1 to July 8, 2011  in a remote area that has no telephone or computer connections.  I'll catch everything up upon my return. <--

Please send me any news you have regarding your yDNA connections so that it can be shared with our members.

The folks with the Rettig surname have been doing some active sharing recently and have asked for extended testing of two of their members kits.

The I2B1 Ruddock/Ruddick sub-group now numbers 11 closely matched members who all share a common ancestor.  They continue to work at trying to identify this early progenitor.
It also appears that three additional individuals who on paper should be members of this group are not because of NPEs which are the result of family wills dealing with estates passed along to daughters.  All have an Anglo-Irish connection.  Unfortunately the difficult state of affairs caused by the destruction of Irish records has made the descovery of crucial church and civil records in Ireland extremely difficult.

Lewis M. Ruddick

June 22, 2011

I2b1 Ruddick-Ruddock Sub-Group

1-     14236 William Ruddock- Penn Colony America before 1735. Ireland

2-     98511 Laurence Ruddock, born 1771, Ireland

3-     85751 James Ruddock m. 1810, Seagoe Parish, Co. Armagh Ireland

4-     115763 William Ruddock- Penn Colony America before 1735. Ireland

5-     111758 Abraham Ruddock (1785-1873), Co. Wexford, IRE Unknown Origin  

6-     14236 William Ruddock- Penn Colony America before 1735. Ireland

7-     90794 Charles Marshall, born 1800, Carelton, Scotland Scotland

8-     2503 William W. Hull, born 1874, Ireland Ireland

9-     90504 Michael Ruddock (1793-1846), Co. Wexford, IRE England

10-  91826 Robert Ruddick, b.c. 1825, Co. Armagh, IRE Ireland

11-  145166 John Hull b. 1794 Dromore, Co.Down Ireland

12-  163715 Charles Marshall, born 1800, Carelton, Scotland Scotland

13-  203840

Half of the individuals have been specifically Haplogroup tested.

Number 1 & 6 above are documented 5thcousins who share the same 5th great grandfather.

Number 8 &11 above are cousins

Number 5 & 13 above are cousins

I2b1

The distribution of Haplogroup I2b1 is closely correlated to that of Haplogroup I1 except in Fennoscandia, which suggests that it was probably harbored by at least one of the Paleolithic refuge populations that also harbored Haplogroup I1; the lack of correlation between the distributions of I1 and I2b1 in Fennoscandia may be a result of Haplogroup I2b1's being more strongly affected in the earliest settlement of this region by founder effects and genetic drift due to its rarity, as Haplogroup I2b1 comprises less than 10% of the total Y-chromosome diversity of all populations outside of Lower Saxony. The distributions of Haplogroup I1 and Haplogroup I2b1 seem to correlate fairly well with the extent of historical influence of Germanic peoples. Haplogroup I2b1 has been found in over 4% of the population only in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, England (not including Wales or Cornwall), Scotland, and the southern tips of Sweden and Norway in Northwest Europe; the provinces of Normandy, Maine, Anjou, and Perche in northwestern France; the province of Provence in southeastern France; the regions ofTuscany, Umbria, and Latium in Italy; and Moldavia and the area around Russia's Ryazan Oblast and Republic of Mordovia in Eastern Europe. One subclade of Haplogroup I2b1, namely I2b1a (M284), has been found almost exclusively among the population of Great Britain, suggesting that the clade may have a very long history in that island. Of historical note, both haplogroups I1 and I2b appear at a low frequency in the historical regions of Bithynia and Galatia in Turkey, possibly descendants of the ancient Gauls of Thrace, several tribes of which are recorded to have immigrated to those parts of Anatolia at the invitation of Nicomedes I of Bithynia. Haplogroup I2b1 also occurs among approximately 1% of the Sardinians. The subclade divergence for M223 occurred 14.6±3.8 kya (Rootsi 2004). Haplogroup I2b1 can be further subdivided in 5 subgroups. Haplogroup I2b1* with no further known polymorphisms, Haplogroup I2b1a with M284 polymorphism with an undergroup Haplogroup I2b1a1 with the L126/S165, L137/S166 polymorphisms, Haplogroup I2b1b with M379 polymorphism, Haplogroup I2b1c with P78 polymorphism, and Haplogroup I2b1d with P95 polymorphism. The age of YSTR variation for the M223 subclade is 13.2±2.7 kya (Rootsi 2004) and 12.3±3.1 kya (Underhill 2007).

I2b1

I2b1 (M223) has a peak in Germany and another in eastern Sweden, but also appears in Russia, Greece, Italy and around the Black Sea.[17] Haplogroup I2b1 has been found in over 4% of the population only in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, England (not including Wales or Cornwall), Scotland, and the southern tips of Sweden and Norway in Northwest Europe; the provinces of Normandy, Maine, Anjou, and Perche in northwestern France; the province of Provence in southeastern France; the regions of Tuscany, Umbria, and Latium in Italy; and Moldavia and the area around Russia's Ryazan Oblast and Republic of Mordovia in Eastern Europe. Of historical note, both haplogroups I1 and I2b appear at a low frequency in the historical regions of Bithynia and Galatia in Turkey, possibly descendants of the ancient Thracian tribes which are historically recorded to have immigrated to those parts of Anatolia from the Balkans (Mysians, Thyni, Bithyni and Phrygians).

Haplogroup I2b1 also occurs among approximately 1% of the Sardinians. The subclade divergence for M223 occurred 14.6±3.8 kya (Rootsi 2004). Haplogroup I2b1 can be further subdivided in 5 subgroups. Haplogroup I2b1* with no further known polymorphisms, Haplogroup I2b1a with M284 polymorphism with an undergroup Haplogroup I2b1a1 with the L126/S165, L137/S166 polymorphisms, Haplogroup I2b1b with M379 polymorphism, Haplogroup I2b1c with P78 polymorphism, and Haplogroup I2b1d with P95 polymorphism. The age of YSTR variation for the M223 subclade is 13.2±2.7 kya [18] and 12.3±3.1 kya. [19]

After being matched at y16 Lewis M. Ruddick and Michael Hull tested out to y67and remained and matched until the last segment were they dropped to +/- 1 at a fast mutating marker.  They then were unmatched with any other kit for quite a period of time then the matches began trickling in.  There are now thirteen members of the sub-group matching with two being perfect matches with Lewis’ 67 markers.

One of Lewis’ matches is his 5th cousin who connects at his 5th great grandfather and is their earliest known ancestor. This match is NOT as close a match as his perfect Ruddock match from Australia.

Michael Hull also has another Hull match and he turned out to be his distant cousin. 

One of the perfect matches with Lewis is interesting in that he is in New Zealand and from a surname that doesn’t quite fit; Marshall.  There are Marshalls in at least two of the trees, one in County Armagh, Ireland and one in Jackson County, Indiana, USA (Lewis’) but they do not connect to the New Zealand Marshall line on paper. (one of the matching Marshalls was only tested to y12 and is the brother of the y67 perfect match Marshall). 

All of the kit matches other than Marshall have documented Ireland roots with most from Co. Armagh.  Lewis’ perfect Ruddock match’s family immigrated to Australia from Bunclody, Co. Wexford.  Marshalls do have a documented connection to Ireland through their maternal line.

The maximum Genetic Distance of this entire sub-group is +/- 2 and as noted at the beginning the haplogroup is I2b1. Two technical haplogroup descriptions are provided above.

Lewis M. Ruddick