R1b-P89.2- Background

Background

In October of 2008 I ordered the 23andMe test. On November 11, 2008 I received my results and forwarded my "Y" SNP's to Adriano Squecco who maintains a spreadsheet for people looking for new SNP's. The next day Adriano informed me that I had a new value at what 23andMe calls i4000226; I had a "T" where the ancestral value is "G". Since this SNP was known as P89 for Haplogroup Q and I was R1b then there was some question whether the 23andMe result was correct. I brought this to the attention of Thomas Krahn at FTDNA who then tested me for P89 and confirmed my result in January of 2009. It was soon offered by FTDNA in the Advanced Orders menu under U106. This SNP is a parallel mutation that also exists in Haplogroup Q for it's subgroup Q1a4 and is called P89 or P89.1 for that Haplogroup.

I have set up Ysearch 8DSZF for a possible 67 marker modal for this SNP. The data so far is very limited but at the present time I expect a haplotype that has DYS389=11,27 and DYS385=12,12 to be positive for P89.2. So far no one-off transitional haplotypes have been tested; DYS385=12,13 is one that I would like to see tested.  The newest P89.2 positive person is Safford 210346 who has DYS385=11,13 instead of the DYS384=12,12; I believe that a cluster with DYS385=11,13 and DYS389=11,27will be ancestral for P89.2 but there are some in that cluster that are negative for P89.2

Here is a link to ThomasKrahn’s Draft “Y” Tree, look for P89.2 to see our place on the tree underU106.