R-DF21 and Subclades
- Results
Null L459
Kit 161731 is a well tested kit that is a member of the R-DF5* clade. An L459- result was reported for that kit, which makes no sense in the context of the other testing. The end-user reported:
In regard to L459, the problem is with the way FTDNA reports null alleles. FTDNA is reporting my result as L459-, but the result was actually ambiguous, meaning there was no result. FTDNA reports these as ancestral (-), by FTDNA convention.
An ambiguous result can occur for many reasons, but after a brief discussion with Thomas, the most likely culprit is an SNP at or near the primer locus preventing it (the primer) from binding.
I believe FTDNA ran L459 for me 8 times and all failed; FTDNA will not continue to test ad infinitum as whatever the condition that exists that was preventing this segment from being read is still present, and any additional testing with the same primer will almost certainly fail as well.
Thomas Krahn verified the above on 16 July 2012 and added:
161731 has a regular haplotype without any visible deletions, therefore I'd guess it is some local point mutation that prevents the primer from binding. He is the only L459 Null I know of.
Therefore, the L459 result for kit 161731 should be regarded as a Null L459 result; it is not an ancestral L459 result.
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Lab Results for non-Isles populations
Note that the overwhelming major of tests so far have been for Isles (United Kingdom and Ireland) populations
Surname Kit Result Origin
Måland N5924 P314.2+ Norway
Conrardy N28650 P314.2+ Luxembourg
Kaptein E9807 Z246+ The Nethrlands
Moreno 131334 DF21- Puerto Rico
Amuchástegui N93033 DF21- Spain
Medina N94538 DF21- Spain
Gram 174552 DF21- Denmark
Jensen N9016 DF21- Denmark
Falch 162176 DF21- Norway
Aase 200869 DF21- Norway
Heihiller N36461 DF21- Norway
Le Bras N56523 DF21- France
Bontron N67581 DF21- France
E5371 DF21- France
N66966 DF21- France
Bonham 92311 DF21- France
DuBosc 25232 DF21- France
Grenier 79112 DF21- France
Bodet 175379 DF21- France
Woertman 179252 DF21- The Netherlands
Frankhouser 134302 DF21- Switzerland
Tiedeman N45541 DF21- Germany
Eisenmann N42297 DF21- Germany
Widener 26916 DF21- Germany
Bodine 160587 DF21- Germany
Hammann 121982 DF21- Germany
Becker 152421 DF21- Germany
Bronk 116978 DF21- Germany
Briskey N23447 DF21- Germany
Wiegand 166617 DF21- Germany
Feltmann N18523 DF21- Germany
Weygand 166617 DF21- Germany
Hannold 35677 DF21- Germany
Lurz 64047 DF21- Draas (German minority), Romania
Yurzditsky 193834 DF21- Belarus
Last Revision: 16 Jul 2012