R-DF21 and Subclades - Results

Null L459

Kit 161731 is a well tested kit that is a member of the R-DF5* clade. An L459- result was reported for that kit, which makes no sense in the context of the other testing. The end-user reported:

In regard to L459, the problem is with the way FTDNA reports null alleles. FTDNA is reporting my result as L459-, but the result was actually ambiguous, meaning there was no result. FTDNA reports these as ancestral (-), by FTDNA convention. 


An ambiguous result can occur for many reasons, but after a brief discussion with Thomas, the most likely culprit is an SNP at or near the primer locus preventing it (the primer) from binding. 


I believe FTDNA ran L459 for me 8 times and all failed; FTDNA will not continue to test ad infinitum as whatever the condition that exists that was preventing this segment from being read is still present, and any additional testing with the same primer will almost certainly fail as well. 


Thomas Krahn verified the above on 16 July 2012 and added:


161731 has a regular haplotype without any visible deletions, therefore I'd guess it is some local point mutation that prevents the primer from binding. He is the only L459 Null I know of.


Therefore, the L459 result for kit 161731 should be regarded as a Null L459 result; it is not an ancestral L459 result.

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Lab Results for non-Isles populations

Note that the overwhelming major of tests so far have been for Isles (United Kingdom and Ireland) populations
 

Surname      Kit     Result   Origin    
Måland       N5924   P314.2+  Norway
Conrardy     N28650  P314.2+  Luxembourg
Kaptein      E9807   Z246+    The Nethrlands
Moreno       131334  DF21-    Puerto Rico
Amuchástegui N93033  DF21-    Spain
Medina       N94538 
DF21-    Spain
Gram         174552 
DF21-    Denmark
Jensen       N9016  
DF21-    Denmark
Falch        162176 
DF21-    Norway
Aase         200869 
DF21-    Norway
Heihiller    N36461 
DF21-    Norway
Le Bras      N56523 
DF21-    France
Bontron      N67581 
DF21-    France
             E5371  
DF21-    France
             N66966 
DF21-    France
Bonham       92311  
DF21-    France
DuBosc       25232  
DF21-    France
Grenier      79112  
DF21-    France
Bodet        175379 
DF21-    France
Woertman     179252 
DF21-    The Netherlands
Frankhouser  134302  DF21-    Switzerland
Tiedeman     N45541 
DF21-    Germany
Eisenmann    N42297 
DF21-    Germany
Widener      26916  
DF21-    Germany
Bodine       160587 
DF21-    Germany
Hammann      121982 
DF21-    Germany
Becker       152421 
DF21-    Germany
Bronk        116978  
DF21-    Germany
Briskey      N23447 
DF21-    Germany
Wiegand      166617 
DF21-    Germany
Feltmann     N18523 
DF21-    Germany
Weygand      166617 
DF21-    Germany
Hannold      35677   DF21-    Germany
Lurz         64047  
DF21-    Draas (German minority), Romania
Yurzditsky   193834 
DF21-    Belarus


Last Revision: 16 Jul 2012