Project News
10/18/2009 Update
153293 is a descendant of Johannes Friederick Fuchs, b 1727 in Germany, who lived in Cumberland County, NJ, in the 1760s and 1770s. In his book, "The Fox Family From Germany to Southern New Jersey"(1982), Rulon D. Brooks, Sr states that Frederick Fox and his wife Mary Band emigrated to the US from Germany aboard the ship "Edinburgh" in 5 Sept 1748. This may or may not be the same Friederick Fuchs.
This result has been found to fall under Haplogroup J2* and is a 23 for 25 match with 140364, a descendant of Christoffel Fuchs of Niederbieber, Germany, and a member of the “Mohawk Valley Foxes.” The last 12 markers, however, included five mismatches.
153424 is a descendant of William Fox and Sarah Avent. William was said by Steadman to be the son of Henry Fox, 2nd, and Mary Claiborne and the grandson of Henry Fox and Anne West. The Y-DNA haplotype denies this relationship. He is a genetic distance of 17 in 37markers from 48275and his relatives.
155575 is a Van Fossen who does not match the other Van Fossen or Van Vossen descendants in the project. Like them, however, he appears to fall into Haplogroup R-M269.
156993 is a descendant of Henry Fox, b 1824 in Staffordshire, Engalnd, some of whose descendants moved to Australia. FTDNA has verified that he is Haplogroup R-M269, which checks Athey’s estimator but with the very unusual result of 21 repeats at DYS 390. The Australian deep ancestor is Percy August Fox dob: 1886 place: Bundaburg, Queensland Australia
157124 is another member of the null439 Fox group – Haplogroup R-L1/S26. Though he is GD=10 on 67 markers from the modal null439 Fox haplotype, he differs on only 5 markers, which could have resulted from as few as 6 mutational events with multistep variations. A common ancestor sometime in the 1500s is certainly a possibility. He is a descendant of Thomas Dudley Fox, born bet 1802 and 1806, in Londonderry, Vermont, who moved to the vicinity of Ontario, Canada. Dudley’s father may have been John Fox, born abt. 1767, in Connecticut who married Mary Glenn and moved to Italy Hollow, NY, where he died in 1841. John’s father may have been Timothy Fox, who married Abigail Dudley in Littleton, MA, sometime around 1760. Abigail was a descendant of Thomas Dudley, an early governor of Massachusetts. The connection to Timothy Fox is clouded by the fact that one researcher has him as a descendant of Thomas Fox of Concord, Massachusetts, whose descendants are clearly in a subclade of Haplogroup I.
159919 is a match for 59807 and it turns out that the two are fourth cousins, the common ancestor being William Moses Fox born bet. 1801 and 1804 in Wilkes Co., NC, and died 4/25/1882 in Yancey Co., NC. The most distant known ancestor is Francis Fox, Sr., born in England about 1749, died abt 1821 in Wilkes County, NC. They are typical haplogroup R-M269 members who do not match other Fox project members.
164277 is another descendant of Elijah Fox of NC and TN. He is our first of this clan from Eijah’s son Ransom. He is being tested at 12 markers. At 12 markers his results could possibly deny the relationship but to prove the relationship an upgrade to 37 markers are required.
164558 is another potential descendant of William Fox, b 1710 in Loudoun Co., VA. He descneds through William’s son William, Jr. He will test 37 markers and his results could be instructive at DYS 488 where the other members of this clan differ.
6/25/2009 Update
We've not had a great deal of activity since 1/23/2009 but what has happened has been interesting. The Y-Results page is always updated whenever there are new results and the new project members are:
140364, our first member of the Palatine NY Mohawk Valley Fuchs clan (Christoffel Fuchs descendants from Niederbieber area in Germany) in “Other Haplogroups” (Haplogroup J2)
142427, another descendant of Thomas Fox of Concord MA in “Haplogroup I-M253 and Subclades.”
143344, another descendant of Jacob Fuchs of Wuerttemberg, Germany, though the exact connection has yet to be made. In “Haplogroup I-253 and Subclades.”
144536, a descendant of Barnaby Fox of Cumberland, NJ, in “Other Haplogroups” (Haplogroup E1b1b1) No matches as yet.
146610, a descendant of William Fox of Cape May, NJ 1760 in “Other Haplogroup R-M269 and Subclades.” A typical R1b but no close matches.
147651, who matches other descendants of Elijah Fox (who had sons named Absolom, Ransom and John) and James Fox of (who had sons named Allen Fox and Enoch Fox.) It appears that this clan may have originated in Virginia and/or North Carolina and then went through Cocke County, Tennessee, on their way west. They are working on possible connections. In “Haplogroup I-M253.”
92311, surname Bonham, was admitted to the Fox Project on the basis of a suspected relationship with Peter Fox, 1756, of New Jersey. Close to the modal for R-M269, he has no close matches in the project. He and 65065 have been tested as Haplogroup R-L21.
N69127 now has 67 marker results available. He is a descendant of Christian Fuchs who died in 1814 in Berks County, PA, near the town of Kutztown. It turns out that he is step-nephew to N23128. While the line dies out here, there was an emigration of German descendants from Palatine, New York, to Berks County in 1723. N23128 has been SNP tested as M170+, M223+ and P19+, putting them in Haplogroup I2b1. An extension to 67 markers is awaited.
There have been a lot of new SNPs discovered that are dividing the main Haplogroups into finer detail and some of our members are doing deep clade testing. Neal Fox is following this closely in Haplogroup R-M269 and subclades.
1/23/2009
New since the last major update in July 2008:
139347 is a descendant of William Hayes Fox, born 1760, CT. He had thought he was a Thomas Fox of Concord, MA, descendant but this was not born out by the testing. While also projected to be in Haplogroup I1 (M253+) he is a genetic distance of 30 from Thomas Fox descendant 92618 at 67 markers. The Thomas Fox descendants are M253+ but also P109+. FTDNA checks earlier results by Ancestry.com and he now has a total of 76 markers tested. His closest match in the Fox project is 99981, with GD=18 at 67 markers.
134182 is a descendant of Vaniah Fox, who married Abigail Cadwell on March 23, 1748 in Glastonbury, CT. He matches 133409 with a genetic distance of 2 in 37 markers. He also matches N55006 exactly at 12 markers. N55006 has been tested M198+ and negative for all downstream SNPs making this group Haplogroup R1a1* (R-M198*). 133409 is descended from Richard Fox born 1641 in Glastonbury, CT, whereas N55006 is descended from Harry Francis Fox born 1841 in Lydlinch, Dorset, England. One researcher has traced the line back to a Samuel Fox born in Dorset in 1735. Furthermore, he says that Samuel was the illegitimate son of one Sarah Fox, thus breaking the Fox line. An extension to 37 markers for N55006 would greatly help to clarify this situation.
133998 gives his immigrant ancestor as Christian Fuchs/Fox, b. 1840 Oberbexbach, Bavaria-d. 1921 Youngstown, Mahoning, Ohio; most distant ancestor Johann Conrad Fuchs, Buergermeister in Dudweiler-Nord around 1766, Kontrolleur of the mine in Burbach, 1776.
His closest matches (GD=13 at 37 markers) are a group of English Foxes who suspect Viking descent (31754, 36120 and 85639). They are projected to be Haplogroup I2b1* (or I-M223*) but FTDNA projects 133998 to be Haplogroup I2b (or I-P214). His mtDNA results (HVR1 and HRV2) indicate the very common Haplogroup H.
133409, mentioned above with 134182, is a descendant of Richard Fox born in Glastonbury, CT, in 1641. A connection between Richard Fox of Glastonbury, CT, and Thomas Fox of Concord, MA was proposed in by several researchers. This connection is now appears disproven. Richard’s father is now thought to have immigrated in 1635 on the ship “Abigail.”
See discussion under Background.
131649 is a descendant of Jesse Fox of Georgia and Arkansas. He is a first cousin of 114418, who father underwent heavy radiation exposure at Nagasaki in 1943. They are a GD=1 in 37 markers, the deviation being at DYS 391. 131649 has been tested M170+, meaning Haplogroup I*. These two are GD=20 at 37 markers from 68367 and 71539. 68367 has been SNP tested M170+ and M258+ and negative for many downstream markers but we suspect he would also test P215+ and P214+ and M223- making this group Haplogroup I-P214* (or I2b*.)
131451 and 131454 are fourth cousins once removed, the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) being Jacob Fox (1785-1830) of Tennessee, who married Elizabeth Ann Broyles. There are thus 11 transmission events separating them and they have a genetic distance of 5 in 37 markers, though only three markers are involved – all fast mutating markers in FTDNA’s 26 through 37 Marker panel. Jacob Fox was the son of Andrew Fox (1750-1890) of Virginia and Tennessee. They are projected by FTDNA to be M-269+ or Haplogroup R1b1b2. Their closest match (GD=16 or 17 at 37 markers) is 58674, who has been tested P312+ and L21+ (Haplogroup R1b1b2a1b4c). Their ancestry is thus projected to be ancient Scots-Irish.
There is also a very close match with 9DW26Robert A. Hughes in Ysearch, surname Hughs, who indicates a Scottish ancestry and has tested P312+ and M222-. The comparison is as follows:
131451 is 20 at DYS 576, 19 at DYS 570 and 38 at CDYb
131454 is 18 at DYS 576, 18 at DYS 570 and 40 at CDYb
9DW26 is 19 at DYS 576, 18 at DYS 570 and 37 at CDYb
130621 is a descendant of Levi Fox, Sr., born in Pennsylvania in 1802. He is a 12 marker match with 48443, who is a descendant of Taylor Fox, born October 1846 in Sheffield, Tippecanoe Co., IN. There are indications that there may be a common ancestor here. Taylor’s father appears to have been Isaac P. Fox who may have been a brother of Levi Fox, Sr., according to census records. 130621 has been tested at 67 markers and is 13 repeats at DYS 492, a very strong indication of Haplogroup R-U106 (R1b1b2a1a). Upgrading 48443 to 37 markers is strongly recommended.
Aside from 48443, the closest matches in the Fox Project are 50481 (GD=12 at 37 markers) and 28579 (GD=14 at 37 markers.) 28579 has been tested S28+ by Ethnoancestry, (equivalent to U152+ at FTDNA). His Haplogroup is thus R1b1b2a1b7.
125558 is a descendant of Jedidiah Lyman Fox, born 1831 in New York who married Nancy Ann Armfield in Wisconsin. He died about 1916, presumably in Wisconsin. This appears to be another descendant of Thomas Fox, of Concord, MA. Markers that differ (in 37 markers tested) from other Thomas Fox descendants are:
69617 is 21 at DYS 570 and 39 at CDYb
70474 is 21 at DYS 570 and 40 at CDYb
92618 is 21 at DYS 570 and 41 at CDYb
125558 is 22 at DYS 570 and 39 at CDYb
This is a close match. Thomas Fox had a great grandson by the name of Jedidiah (1706-1785.) He was from New London, CT, but members of that family are known to have moved to New York State. 125558 has been SNP tested as Haplogroup I-P109 ( Haplogroup I1c according to FTDNA; Haplogroup I1d1 according to ISOGG.)
125352 had a great grandfather named Fuchs who came from Alsace, France, to America in the late 1800s. His 12 marker haplotype indicates Haplogroup R-M269 or one of its subclades. He has no close matches in the Fox Project. His mtDNA result (HVR1) indicates Haplogroup HV*.
123131 is the great grandson of Hyram Fox of Hart, Michigan. Hyram came down to Michigan from Canada and is thought possibly to have had Jewish ancestry. His is an unusual R1b haplotype – close to the modal for R1b1c but with multi-step mutations at DYS 389I and at DYS 438 – both rather stable markers. He is also 13 at DYS 492, indicative of U106/S21 positive status. There are some similar haplotypes in Belarus/ Lithuania but he matches closely (GD = 1 in 33 markers) a Webb in the SMGF database whose MDA is given as Robert WEBB b 1755 in Crewkerne, Somerset ENGLAND. 123131 has been tested Haplogroup R-U106*.
121692 is descended from Henry Fox, b ~1750 in Gloucestershire, England. He is a close match to 56980, 62776 and 80721 who have traced back to Alabama and Georgia around 1820. At 37 markers he is GD=1 vs 62776 and GD=2 vs 56980 and 80721. Several more mutations have shown up in the last 30 markers of the 67 marker set against 80721 and it is more probable that the most distant common ancestor (MRCA) of the combined clan is before rather than after Henry Fox. This group appears to be Haplogroup R-U106, based on the result of 13 repeats at DYS 492.
We also have information on four Foxes tested recently by Ancestry.com (formerly Relative Genetics.) They have been given RG numbers for identification purposes:
RG6 is probably in Haplogroup I-M223, along with 10 other Foxes, none closely related. He descends from John Fox (1770-1809) of Cumberland Co., Pennsylvania. Before this, he suspects Fuchs ancestry from Alsace-Lorraine, Germany. His Ysearch ID is BWUW8.
RG7 is another apparent descendant of Thomas Fox of Concord, MA. His known most distant ancestor is Martin Fox born in 1785 in New York State. He matches 92618 exactly at the 35 markers they have in common. Together with the three Thomas Fox descendants found in the SMGF database, he extends the Thomas Fox modal haplotype out to 75 markers and the number of descendants out to eleven. His Ysearch ID is GQMSG.
RG8 may be a descendant of John Fox of Ontario County, New York, born in 1820 – his great, great grandfather but it is possible his grandfather may have been adopted while living in Williamsport, PA. He is obviously another member of Haplogroup R-M269 or one of its subclades but has no close matches in the Fox project. His Ysearch ID is EJ5G5 and he has some interesting close matches with men named Clendenin and Stephenson in the Ysearch database. Clendenin has Scots descent and may well be Haplogroup R-L21.
RG9 is also Fox project member 139347, having also joined the Fox project at FTDNA.
Several of the new results (130621 and 134182) are for members who had traditions that indicated a possible family connection to Sir Stephen Fox. They do not match the null 439 Fox group who have the best claim to a relationship. Confirming this connection remains one of the goals of the project.
A number of project members have upgraded to 67 markers and, with new members frequently electing 67 markers, 30 project members have now been tested at 67 markers, 22 in Haplogroup R1b and 8 in Haplogroup I. Five of these are in the null439 group (R-L1/S26) and their results on the last 30 markers check very closely.
Note the value of 13 repeats at DYS492 for another ten, which may be an indicator of S21+ status (Haplogroup R1b1b2a1a *). Leo Little has entered an 8 marker haplotype 8FPR4 in Ysearch which will select for 90% of S21+ (388=12, 426=12, 436=12, 454=11, 455=11, 492=13, 578=9, 590=8.) These are all stable markers, and the results for GD=0 will include 5% of S21- and miss 5% of S21+.
Some new SNP test results in Haplogroup R1b are now available. 58674 has been SNP tested and is S21/U106-, an exception to the DYS492=13 rule that was actually predicted by Neal Fox. (Note: S21 is the same SNP as U106 in FTDNA terminology.) 14179 and 58674 have both ordered the new SNP called P312 or S116, which appears further to split R1b1c. 14179 was expected to be negative, as expected, since he is U106/S21+ and 58674 was positive, as expected, since he is S21-. 58674 has now been test and is in the R-L21 subclade of R-P312. This makes him Haplogroup R1b1b2a1b according to the 2009 ISOGG Haplogroup Tree. 48275, tested S21+ by Ethnoancestry, now been tested negative for S29, allowing him to remain in the U106/S21+* Project at FTDNA, where the star indicates negative for all known downstream SNP markers.
Project member 38430 has become the most tested project member: Y-DNA 67 markers, mt DNA Plus, Deep R1b SNP, Autosomal Panel 1, DeepSNP-R1b1c U Series, mtHVR2 to Mega, and finally Y-SNP Panel 1-b(rs34276300, rs9785659, rs9786283,) which is still under testing and could change his Haplogroup subclade. He is Y-Haplogroup R-P312 (R1b1b2a1b*) according to FTDNA and ISOGG (M173+ M207+ M269+ M343+ P25+ P312+ M126- M153- M160- M18- M222- M37- M65- M73- P107- P66- SRY2627- U106- U152- U198.) He should also test for the L21 SNP. He is mtDNA Haplogroup T2b. He is a member of the following projects in addition to the Fox Project: Ireland-Heritage, Ireland mtDNA, R1b and mtDNA T FGS (full genome sequence.) He has also been tested by Relative Genetics at 74 STR markers.